My observation is that most males are just seeking selfish fun with limited regard to their partner and have no idea what a swinger really is. Sad but fact. - I have visited many swinger events in Europe and Australasia always with a lady partner. And I never just seek my own gratification but do my very best to truly fulfill her wishes until she is totally satisfied before allowing myself to cum. - How do I do that? Ask me by email - use my handle and complete it into a hootmail destination.